Negotiating Fees
A couple of comments in the blogs and forums have gotten me to thinking of fees again and how to present them to patients. It seems that more than a few acupuncturists who practice in the Boutique style and some who practice in the Hybrid style have a certain rationale to their fee structure:
A certain fairly high fee, say $50+ a visit, but will go lower than that if the patient can’t/won’t pay that amount. I say “can’t/won’t” because it seems like there is some negotiating taking place, some haggling if you will. Sometimes this is justified as an act of compassion to lower the price; sometimes this is attributed to good business sense ($20 is at least better than having the patient walk out.)
I see a problem with this. This is bad business.
The reason that it is a bad business practice is that in part comes from a lack of understanding of how acupuncture works and in part not realizing that negotiating prices actually turn away customers.
Acupuncture is meant to be administered frequently: a lot of treatments in a short amount of time. It doesn’t make any difference about how good of an acupuncturist you are; if you don’t see your patients often enough and frequently enough, you will not wind up helping many of them. (Sometimes I am amazed that acupuncture schools don’t drill this into their students’ heads from the first class all the way to graduation. Its one of the few things all acupuncturists MUST learn. That the far majority don’t learn it gives us a good idea on the state of acupuncture practices in this country.)
Most acupuncturists don’t understand this simple principle of frequency. You can tell this by seeing fees of $50 and up. Most acupuncturists think they are charging for one treatment. They are wrong of course. They are in reality setting the bar for a series of treatments because, again, almost every patient needs o come a bunch of times. Because of this confusion, patients are less likely to keep coming even if they agree to the initial price, because they can’t afford 10-20 or more treatments of $50 and up. What happens then is the patient stops treatment, thinking that 1) acupuncture is too expensive for them and 2) it doesn’t really work anyway.
I hope everyone here can see the shortsightedness of a high fee. But what happens with those practitioners who are willing to haggle?
First it must be said that haggling over price is a time honored practice throughout both history and in every culture. Even we Americans do it, especially when it comes to big ticket items like cars and houses. But is it the best thing for us acupuncturists? More broadly, is haggling the best way to earn a living? No, it’s not, and I have the Quaker tradition to back me up.
Those folks here with access to the forums can read what I wrote about the Quakers in the Philosophy forum. I will sum up below for the rest:
Quakers were one of the first major religious sects in this country; with a primarily mystical focus they were unique. Their influence on the development of our country was (and still is) immense. Interestingly one area that they were influential was in the realm of economics. With their strong tradition of honesty they were the first group to promote the idea of setting a price on a thing and sticking to it. No haggling. What you see is what you get. Honesty up front.
This was a revolutionary idea when it was introduced and the upshot was that the Quakers got very very rich by being honest. Customers liked the idea of a set published price. That sounds very simple and it is. People flocked to Quaker stores, prompting this saying about them:
The Quakers came to do good in the world and they did very well indeed.
So what does this have to do with the acupuncturist who is willing to lower their price if the customer balks at the established price? It means that its a bad business practice because the honesty is lacking. The far majority of customers don’t like negotiating their fees. They feel bad if they can’t pay the established price. Often they won’t negotiate. Instead they either don’t come in or they pay it once or twice and stop coming even if they don’t feel better. This type of business practice, even under the guise of “compassion” kills the practice. Since word of mouth is an acupuncturist's life blood, if word gets out that 1) the price is unaffordable and 2) the price listed varies from patient to patient then that acupuncturist is not getting good word of mouth and their practice will suffer.
Guaranteed.
Ultimately there’s no reason to charge a high price that you are willing to lower, often quite substantially, if the patient says they want a lower price. You wind up taking in less money than you would if everybody came in at that lower price.
But, says the BA acupuncturist, I can tell who can pay the higher fees and who can’t! Pfffft, says I. Think of it this way: Hopefully you were taught “universal precautions for blood-borne pathogens”, meaning, to treat every patient you see as if they have Hep C or HIV. Why? Because you never know if they will tell you. The same is true in trying to assess a patient’s financial situation. You know neither their true income nor their true expenses. You don’t know what value they place on correcting their health problem either. So how can you possibly know what you can get them to pay? Obviously you can’t. Ethically, negotiating fees while providing health care is highly dubious too. As it turns out most acupuncturists who try this fail. Why then should one go down this path?


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that last comment post was actually me, not Skip reiterating that he fully agrees with himself ...
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Word.
Not only is this not drilled into our heads in acuschool, but the principal of pretending the cost is not an issue is being demonstrated all the time. This summer term is filled with people coming in to be treated in front of a classroom in exchange for getting the treatment for free. At the end, the teachers just tell the patient to keep getting treatment, with no discussion at all of what that entails, frequency or cost-wise. Upon prompting, some of the teachers have given the patient a business card. For a patient who has sought out free treatment and been willing to be treated in front of a class just to get it, this seems especially cruel to me. I just don't get it. At least a couple of us CAN-minded students have been slipping these people BCA and WCA bizness cards.
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That's the negotiation out of true, honest compassion that Skip mentions ("Sometimes this is justified as an act of compassion to lower the price;") and by keeping the community acupuncture attitude of abundance, those acts are just part of the equation.
Yep, patient-focused acupuncture that supports the LAc....not impossible, eh?
Good on ya Maria.
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mostly i agree, of course. but sometimes you just have to negotiate. sometimes a patient doesn't have the $$ to pay $15 two or three times a week. I have a patient right now who fits this description. she was in a car wreck 2 years ago and her lumbar pain is so bad (nerve damage, her pain specialist's recommendation is to burn off her nerve endings every few months, which she has been doing!) she can't work. she is so drugged up on pain meds and so depressed that she sleeps 14 hours a day. she is on disability and has very limited resources. she's been coming once a week for a month or so, and she gets relief for only a couple of days.
I had the talk with her the other day. i told her that she has to come in at least twice a week for eight to ten weeks to really get her over the hump. i also prescribed san qi 17. she was uncomfortable, so i told her to think of how much she could pay per week, $20, $25, and we would make that work. that it was more important that she come in and get better than it was for BCA to make $30 a week. she was happy and committed to the course of treatment.
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Thanks for that post, Skip. So, based simply on the fact of acupuncture working better when frequent, it seems to me there's only one type of $50+ acupuncture practice - one that is geared specifically to those with a lot of disposable income: acupuncture for facelifts, acupuncture spa for weight loss, cruise ship practice, etc.
If this doesn't describe how an acupuncturist wants to focus their practice, in my opinion the only alternative that makes good business sense is to do community acupuncture.
And the honesty issue may not seem obvious to everyone, but the conscience will catch up with any practitioner who wants to live from the heart.
Quaker Marty
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Extremely well said, especially the last two paragraphs. I think there is a legal issue also with treating people differently based on... lots of things.
Sandy
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Great post Skip. Why do we find the need to justify ourselves to others in our field, when simply the CAN model is just the right thing to do. My husband and I were discussing the fact that neither one of us remember getting "schooled" on a course of treatment. Teachers just didn't emphasize this. And who are we to say that an acupuncture treatment=$50+ dollars? It seems so clear to me now. I'm just happy I found CAN fairly early on in my practice!
Melonie
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Sometimes I can hear the words in my head from the Little Red Book of Lisa saying "frequent and regular", "frequent and regular". This is especially helpful when it comes with a complicated patient. I understood it intellectually when I first read it, but implementing it has been a different experience altogether. So I have been practicing....Today, for instance, I had a male patient with back pain that came with waves of spasms. It was his first time at our clinic; he couldn't stand up straight. After his treatment he could stand up straight, but still felt the pain in his back. I told him that I needed to see him 3 times this week. He committed to this plan of action and even paid for the 3 treatments up front. It was a simple and easy transaction and I felt good about telling him what he needed to do for the best results. I also felt very grateful that I didn't have to haggle price with him.
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I agree. that small voice inside is getting louder and louder, and finally came out through you in this post.